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Apr. 8th, 2008 12:38 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ithikaOkay so I was supposed to sleep, or whatever. But I tried - honest! - and I have too many thoughts buzzing around my head.
Firstly, this thought has been confusing me for some time.
Homophobia. The phobia of homosexual people.
Shouldn't there be another word for people who hate (and other bad stuff) homosexual people? As in, the people who discriminate against and are in other ways retarded towards them? Because isn't hate different from fear?
I realise that hate or anger is a pretty common by-product of fear, but still. I don't know. Forgive me if this is inappropriate. I was just thinking about it - isn't it possible to fear something without hating it?
I had a hard time considering this because the only thing that I can truly say I have a phobia towards is seaweed (yes, it's true. Not afraid of spiders, snakes, fire, heights, disembowel- wait, ok. mildly disconcerted by the idea of disembowelment - etc, but afraid of seaweed. petrified of it), and while I could say that I fear it and I guess I hate it, seaweed is hardly representative of this train of thought, it's not a very complex fear.
So I think the fact that I both fear and hate seaweed may be irrelevant? Or maybe it isn't? Maybe fear always results in hate?
I can't really imagine having an intense, phobic fear of a certain group of people, though. I guess it's because I don't?
I have a moderate fear of too many people all at once, but that's not saying "I fear people who have brown hair" or whatever. It just seems silly. But I suppose the whole thing is.
And then, if that's the case and people who hate homosexual people shouldn't be called homophobes but something else, does that mean that homophobia becomes a benign thing? Could it be? I mean I would still definitely think of both as being stupid and misguided, but then most phobias are. For example there's not likely any reason that I should fear a plant that floats in the ocean. But as much as I can say that now, it doesn't stop me from being afraid of it. Hm, no, I think it definately wouldn't be benign. Because it's still going to cause people to discriminate against another group of people. Theoretically. Because I suppose you are mistrustful of the things you fear, and therefore your fear would always govern how you react to the object of your unease. So therefore a person who didn't hate gay people, but was afraid of them for some reason, would still treat them differently and therefore be discriminating against them, if unconsciously or passively.
So I suppose in the end of all that I have come to the conclusion that I guess homophobia is appropriate to mean both hating and fearing homosexual people.
Hurrah! A pointless wall of text.
In other news:
I finished my fish vector
Um.
I am randomly really happy and then really angry lately. Somewhat concerned about these moodswings, because they are reasonably uncharacteristic. Or at least they have been for a while.
I am pretty sure I know what's causing them, however:
1. I am unhappy about the fact that I'm always broke. (Lol can't fix it)
2. I am unhappy with my level of fitness (though I'm working on improving that)
3. I am unhappy living at home (Lol can't fix it)
So yeah. Knowing what the problem is doesn't really help when you can't change it, though. It more highlights my feeling of frustrated helplessness.
At least my studio teacher really likes my work. He said it was "inspired." This makes me feel pretty good. But still, with the mood swings.
Firstly, this thought has been confusing me for some time.
Homophobia. The phobia of homosexual people.
Shouldn't there be another word for people who hate (and other bad stuff) homosexual people? As in, the people who discriminate against and are in other ways retarded towards them? Because isn't hate different from fear?
I realise that hate or anger is a pretty common by-product of fear, but still. I don't know. Forgive me if this is inappropriate. I was just thinking about it - isn't it possible to fear something without hating it?
I had a hard time considering this because the only thing that I can truly say I have a phobia towards is seaweed (yes, it's true. Not afraid of spiders, snakes, fire, heights, disembowel- wait, ok. mildly disconcerted by the idea of disembowelment - etc, but afraid of seaweed. petrified of it), and while I could say that I fear it and I guess I hate it, seaweed is hardly representative of this train of thought, it's not a very complex fear.
So I think the fact that I both fear and hate seaweed may be irrelevant? Or maybe it isn't? Maybe fear always results in hate?
I can't really imagine having an intense, phobic fear of a certain group of people, though. I guess it's because I don't?
I have a moderate fear of too many people all at once, but that's not saying "I fear people who have brown hair" or whatever. It just seems silly. But I suppose the whole thing is.
And then, if that's the case and people who hate homosexual people shouldn't be called homophobes but something else, does that mean that homophobia becomes a benign thing? Could it be? I mean I would still definitely think of both as being stupid and misguided, but then most phobias are. For example there's not likely any reason that I should fear a plant that floats in the ocean. But as much as I can say that now, it doesn't stop me from being afraid of it. Hm, no, I think it definately wouldn't be benign. Because it's still going to cause people to discriminate against another group of people. Theoretically. Because I suppose you are mistrustful of the things you fear, and therefore your fear would always govern how you react to the object of your unease. So therefore a person who didn't hate gay people, but was afraid of them for some reason, would still treat them differently and therefore be discriminating against them, if unconsciously or passively.
So I suppose in the end of all that I have come to the conclusion that I guess homophobia is appropriate to mean both hating and fearing homosexual people.
Hurrah! A pointless wall of text.
In other news:
I finished my fish vector
Um.
I am randomly really happy and then really angry lately. Somewhat concerned about these moodswings, because they are reasonably uncharacteristic. Or at least they have been for a while.
I am pretty sure I know what's causing them, however:
1. I am unhappy about the fact that I'm always broke. (Lol can't fix it)
2. I am unhappy with my level of fitness (though I'm working on improving that)
3. I am unhappy living at home (Lol can't fix it)
So yeah. Knowing what the problem is doesn't really help when you can't change it, though. It more highlights my feeling of frustrated helplessness.
At least my studio teacher really likes my work. He said it was "inspired." This makes me feel pretty good. But still, with the mood swings.
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Date: 2008-04-08 07:04 pm (UTC)http://youtube.com/watch?v=T0xoKiH8JJM&feature
do you think that is fear or hate?
His explanation for how he doest "hate" still makes no sense for me?
Personally i think/hope hes a joytastic satirist.
I disagree with this "guy". Lol angers.
Date: 2008-04-09 05:25 am (UTC)I think it's probably fear, but not directly. Like not a direct fear of women so much as it might be a fear that he won't achieve enough in his life, so he creates an idea that men (which he is a part of) are better than women to make himself feel like he has achieved something. That sentence was kind of poorly constructed but yeah. I also think he's probably pretty insecure and possibly lonely. I think this because of the sunglasses. He's projecting this "cool" image where he is a persona who does 'cool' anti-establishment things. Projecting a persona means that he can act with confidence because attacks to him when he's projecting this persona aren't attacks towards him. This is also poorly explained, because I think he's probably pretty sure that he's acting like himself. He's an interesting person that I think is probably relatively uneducated and bound for loneliness.
The other reason he might be wearing glasses is that you could be right.. it could all be satire and so he doesn't want to be recognised. (Lol at "Dr Phil got trolled" comments) But I dunno.
I understand how he can say that he doesn't "hate" though. The dog metaphor was actually pretty accurate for explaining it.. kind of.
It's sort of like... you can't hate something for its nature, or its nature doesn't make it evil.
Sharks aren't evil just because they kill and maim things that are sometimes people. It's the sharks nature to eat to live, and its job is to eat things that aren't fast or clever enough to escape. That some sharks are smart enough to realise that humans make wholesome and easy food isn't the sharks' fault, and it doesn't make the shark evil.
So I think this is kind of what he means. Because he allegedly doesn't believe that women are capable of the same thought processes as men (lol whatever), he just thinks that it is our nature to be vapid or greedy or whatever. So he can't hate women for 'all being whores.'
If it's his true attitudes about women I'd say that he's likely to be incredibly socially incompetent, and has never had any female friends. OR all his female friends were vapid bitches. It could happen.
(lol long comment! That guy is a pretty hilarious thing.)