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Ghan ([personal profile] ithika) wrote2005-08-09 08:47 pm
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How far would you go?

[I thought of something interesting to talk about. Okay, so it's from the psych lab today, so it's not really my idea, but it *was* intriguing...]

Right, so there was this experiment in the 50's, right, where they selected two supposedly random people off the street [or rather selected some volunteers] and asked them to participate in a supposed "Learning Experiment", where one person was the "teacher" and the other the "learner". The experiment was rigged so that the "learner" would always be an accomplice to the experimenter. The "teacher's" job was to read out a series of words and wait for the "learner" to indicate their answer. If their answer was wrong, the "teacher" was to administer an electric shock, the shock becoming stronger with each wrong answer.
The real experiment was observing how long it would take a person to disobey the experimenter and refuse to continue with the experiment.

I, personally, and this is true, not me lying to make myself look good, think I would stop if not as soon as the supposed "learner" asked for the experiment to be stopped, then the next time after. Although, not necissarially for the right reasons. I think I'd be more likely to stop if the experimenter told me not to, because I can tend to be arrogant and insistant when I think I'm right. Sort of more of an antiauthoritarian reaction than one of compassion/guilt/pity, though it would be that too. That is my completely honest answer! What is yours? How far would you go?



In other news, my msn has randomly decided not to make any noises when I recieve messages. If anyone knows how to make it better again, I will be happy. I've already tried changing the message tone, which works, but to no avail! *weeps*

[identity profile] penchaft.livejournal.com 2005-08-09 02:43 pm (UTC)(link)
The real experiment was observing how long it would take a person to disobey the experimenter and refuse to continue with the experiment.

For the teacher or the learner to refuse? Because I'd say eventually the learner would start answering questions right... heh.

[identity profile] bloodied-aura.livejournal.com 2005-08-09 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
oh, for the teacher. I meant to say that the learner isn't actually being shocked, there's a tape recording of someone responding to the shocks and stuff...

[identity profile] grahame.livejournal.com 2005-08-09 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
This one? :-)

It's pretty cool. I totally think we should do it to next year's freshers. Perhaps start an unethical psychology club, and do it in a tent at O'Day? :-P

[identity profile] bloodied-aura.livejournal.com 2005-08-11 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
yep, that one. Hehe!

That is a grand idea. It'd have to be some kind of impressive and imposing tent. Maybe... with gargoyles and lightning. Even without the gargoyles and lightning, it'd be pretty awesome.

[identity profile] im-the-end.livejournal.com 2005-08-10 09:41 am (UTC)(link)
id go as high as the average electric fence...whatever that is

[identity profile] bloodied-aura.livejournal.com 2005-08-11 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
fair enough... I don't know how high that is either. Probably not very much.

[identity profile] tattered-pinion.livejournal.com 2005-08-10 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
"because I can tend to be arrogant and insistant when I think I'm right"

Whilst doing that with friends/a teacher you know is one thing, I expect/know you wouldn't act like that with a 'real' authority figure/a stranger

"In other news, my msn has randomly decided not to make any noises when I recieve messages. "

GOOD! The noises are bad. Life is better for you now, give in to it.

[identity profile] bloodied-aura.livejournal.com 2005-08-11 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
Possibly. But I'm less likely to respect and therefore listen to a stranger who is telling me to do something which I think is wrong.


No! The noises let me know when people are talking to me... I like them... I weep.

[identity profile] tattered-pinion.livejournal.com 2005-08-11 08:11 am (UTC)(link)
Well, you do tend to be quite timid around people you don't know when you aren't with lots of friends.

So does the flashing orange of the conversation, which tells you exactly which conversation it is.

[identity profile] bloodied-aura.livejournal.com 2005-08-11 08:38 am (UTC)(link)
True.

Hm, I still prefer to have the noise also. The flashing isn't that effective on it's own.